Travis Ellis
Shepherd’s Men: Why We Ran 1,300 Miles (And Won’t Stop)
Lessons from several grueling journeys made to benefit a life-saving program for America’s veterans and first responders.
It's hard to say which of his good turns was the craziest.
Was it
running 684 miles from Atlanta to Washington D.C.? Or the 1,300-mile journey
from Boston back down south?
Or maybe
it was the time he and his teammates hiked hundreds of miles from the Flight 93
crash site while carrying 93 pounds - half their bodyweight or more for most
participants - all the way.
Those are
just some of the grueling journeys undertaken by our latest guest, Travis Ellis
of Shepherd's Men.
Ellis and
other members do it all to raise funds and awareness for the SHARE Military
Initiative, a life-saving program for military veterans and first responders at
Shepherd Center in Atlanta.
And in today's interview, Ellis explains why he's
happy to make these sacrifices — because it could help alleviate the physical
and mental suffering that so many of America's heroes live with every day.
Shepherd
Center is one of the top hospitals in the nation for treating brain injuries,
spinal cord injuries, and other neuromuscular conditions.
Its SHARE
Military Initiative is a one-of-a-kind rehabilitation program.
The program
focuses on service members who have sustained a traumatic brain injury (TBI)
from military service since September 11th, including those who suffer from
symptoms of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).
In
today's interview, Ellis explains why the SHARE initiative has been able to
succeed where other programs have fallen short.
One helpful reason why: SHARE
is available at no cost to those it serves, thanks to generous charitable support.
Ellis is
one of the driving forces behind that support. His organization Shepherd's Men
has raised more than $8 million for SHARE to date.
Shepherd's
Men earned a lot of those funds through brutal physical challenges.
In this
episode, Ellis will explain why he chose such a difficult path for raising
awareness and what it takes to endure such formidable challenges.
He'll also
tell the stories of a few people who might not be here today without the work
of Shepherd's SHARE initiative.
- Congressional Medal recipients recognize and award Travis Ellis, a fellow hero (4:02)
- The most grueling physical challenge Shepherd's Men has taken on, and what got them through (25:24)
- What Travis wishes everyone understood about mental health challenges (30:46)
- How SHARE Military Initiative gave Jorge Rodriguez his life back (26:37)
- The man who saved Travis's life from ruin (37:55)
FRANK
BLAKE: Okay, terrific. Well, it is an honor to have you on the podcast.
Welcome, Travis Ellis.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Thank you. Thank you very much for having me.
FRANK
BLAKE: So I've got one question I want to start with because you're the
recipient of an award that I had not heard about before, but when I looked
into, honestly, I was just amazed by this award.
You received the Citizen Honor Award, and I think that was in 2017. And if you
could just give a little bit of background first on the group that gives the
award and then second what the award is about.
I'd love to start right there.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Sure. No, absolutely. It's a very humbling experience.
In March of 2017, I went to Washington, D.C., and was presented the Citizen's
Honor Award by the Congressional Medal of Honor Society.
And basically, the society selects a handful of people each year for various
merits and awards them with this recognition. It's hard being a part of-
FRANK
BLAKE: So Travis, just to stop you for a second to make sure that I understand
it right, these are people who won the Congressional Medal of honor turning
around and honoring some other citizen of the country.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Absolutely.
So in D.C. that March, there were probably 25 to 30 living recipients and there
was an event at the Library of Congress and then at Joint Base Myer-Henderson
Hall there in D.C. where you presented the award and a gentleman named Clint
Romesha presented mine and Clint received his Congressional Medal of honor for
actions in Afghanistan.
And it was just an incredibly humbling experience.
And to be in the company of these giants of men who have just performed these
heroic deeds, it's still something that humbles me.
I've never been one to seek personal attention. And so it's an award that I've
never shown anyone.
It stays in a box…
FRANK
BLAKE: Really? Oh, really?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Because I didn't accomplish what we have accomplished individually.
Now, I know you have to have a voice, you have to have a leader, but at the end
of the day, there were many people who have joined this cause and this mission
that have made us successful.
And so while it's one of the honors of my lifetime and it's something I'll
never forget, it's also not something that I brag about.
I consider it a group award, and I was proud to be able to represent our group
in receiving it.
FRANK
BLAKE: Well, again, from the research I did into it, the fact that we've got
these truly heroic, I mean, just outstanding individuals who get together and
pick other citizens of the country who are doing great service to their fellow
citizens.
I just think of the awards one could get in life, whether personal or for your
group, hard to top that, just hard to top.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: No, it was.
We lost a recipient a couple of weeks ago. He was the first recipient to
receive... the first individual to receive the Medal of Honor for Actions in
Vietnam, a gentleman named Roger Donlon.
And he was there that week. And to be able to just be in his company and so
many of these men who are just heroic in their actions, it makes you feel quite
small and quite humble.
FRANK
BLAKE: So Travis, explain for our listeners why you and the group received the
award.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: So in 2014, myself and some friends who were stationed at a
reconnaissance, Marine Corps reconnaissance company in Smyrna, Georgia, we came
up with the idea that we wanted to support a program at the Shepherd Center
here in Atlanta, the SHARE Military Initiative.
SHARE was started approximately 15 years ago based on some seed money that your
friend, Bernie Marcus, provided to Shepherd Center.
And the program operates virtually exclusively through donor funding. We had had
friends that have graduated the program who had had their lives transformed.
And so we wanted to be able to support it financially.
FRANK
BLAKE: And tell a little bit about what it does, what's the SHARE program about
and what moved you as to become so involved with it?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: I think the biggest factor that moved me was having friends who received
care there who have told me that if not for SHARE, I wouldn't be here.
If not for SHARE, then my children would sit around the table at night knowing
their father as a sobering statistic and not daddy.
And so that is the genesis for activity. And then just seeing what SHARE was
all about.
SHARE provides acute comprehensive care for post-9/11 veterans and now first
responders who have suffered some sort of neurological trauma, so traumatic
brain injury.
It's kind of known as the signature injury in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And unfortunately, these injuries were often going undiagnosed and untreated.
And for these injuries, I'm not sure conventional modalities of therapy as we
know it have been working.
So we wanted to find a way to raise awareness to let folks know more about this
life-saving program and also try to find some ways to help meet the clinical
budget needs.
So we
started out doing these kind of grueling, over-the-top physical endeavors, and
that morphed into various events and building a network and a team on what's
become now a national scale.
And we've raised over $8.5 million. We have no labor, no salary, it's just volunteers
doing God's work.
FRANK
BLAKE: So it is amazing.
And I want to get into your approach on fundraising, which is unique.
But before we get to that, describe a little bit for our listeners what the
program does and maybe what sets it apart from other approaches to brain injury
rehabilitation?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Sure. I think what sets it apart, it provides every clinical discipline
that a service member may need in a collaborative environment.
So it's clinical psychology to social work, recreational therapy, occupational,
vestibular, pain management, chaplaincy.
And to receive all these clinical disciplines, say, in a big broad healthcare
system, it would probably take you two to three years.
But SHARE is able to deliver in 16 weeks.
And all of these clinicians who are world-class, they work collaboratively
day-to-day, providing just the best outcomes and the best treatment plan for
the individual.
FRANK
BLAKE: So I know you've visited the Shepherd Center a lot and interacted with
the men and women who've been patients of the SHARE military initiative.
What's that experience like? What kind of impact does that have on you?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Yeah, I mean anytime you go down there, you certainly feel inspired.
I mean, I think that the biggest takeaway is just the genuine care that the
clinicians have for the clients in the program.
They are not seen as a social security number or service number, they are seen
as a human being.
And through those interactions, they are delivering a level of care that's just
unlike anything out there in our healthcare system.
And to talk to the clients and to become friends with them and to know that
many wouldn't be here without this program.
This was the last gasp of air for so many. Several of these have tasted the
barrel of a gun.
Many have made plans and were willing to carry out those plans to end their
life and somehow, whether it be through divine providence or whatever, they
found SHARE and now they found wellness.
And I
think we owe it to the few that raise their right hand to allow us to be free
to enjoy the liberties that we enjoy today to care for them when they return
home from combat.
And unfortunately, I think we failed. I think the bureaucracies have failed our
war fighters.
I think it's easy for... Not to go down a rabbit hole, but I think it's easy
for politicians to send somebody else's sons and daughters to fight wars.
You wish it would be as easy to care for them when they return home injured
from their days or years of combat.
FRANK
BLAKE: One of the most remarkable stories you've told us about Gary Herbert,
will you share that with our listeners?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: I will.
So Gary was on a 24-man team in Afghanistan.
And Gary, when he joined the Army, he was 26 years old and just had messed up
every facet of his life.
So the Army was giving out pretty robust bonuses at the time to join. And so
Gary was like, okay, I'll see what soldiering looks like.
So he joined the Army and once he did, things clicked and he performed really
well.
He was a good soldier. Fast-forward to Afghanistan on his first deployment.
Every vehicle in his team was hit by an IED and Gary's vehicle was hit. And
while nobody died in country, everyone was affected adversely.
Gary returned home, he started to struggle performing kind of basic tenets of
life.
He couldn't remember to take medicine, balance his checkbook, just do very
basic necessities of life there.
And he was in a toxic relationship and decided that if he could do one thing
right at a time where he was doing not much else right, he was going to give
his mom and dad a proper military funeral.
And so
the Army had medically retired him at this time, and the one thing that he did
well was taken away from him.
And so he was in Fort Drum, New York, and as Gary would tell you, he waited
until his cell phone battery got down to 2% and he called his mom and dad in
Douglasville, Georgia.
And he was talking to his mother on the phone and he was apologizing. And his
dad somehow got in touch with New York State Police, and within the time Gary
was on the phone with his mother, New York State police arrived at his home.
They were able to not detain, but they were able to quell the situation there
and get the firearm from Gary and save his life.
And it's a remarkable thing because Gary had made the decision that he didn't
want to live anymore.
And now because of SHARE, and more so because of his parents, the DNA that's
inside him and who he is, Gary is not only living but he's thriving.
He
spent 16 weeks at Shepherd Center.
He, through recreational therapy, he learned how to tie flies and that
fly-tying morphed into building fly rods.
Gary has since won a national fly rod building competition.
He wakes every day. He has a sense of purpose. He's building fly rods for
people all over the country, and he engages in our mission on a daily basis.
And he's a wonderful ambassador.
He's a great human being, and he could easily not be here just as much as he
is.
And I'm so thankful that, first of all, that evening was divine providence.
There had to be God's hand in that.
And God had a plan for Gary that maybe Gary didn't have for himself.
And now, Gary is able to be a touch point and just a tentacle to reaching other
veterans. And I know through Gary's engagement with our group and serving as an
ambassador for SHARE, he is saving lives daily.
FRANK
BLAKE: What an amazing story.
Tell us a little bit about your own connection to the Shepherd Center and
SHARE, what started that?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: So I learned of Shepherd Center through a friend who I served on a board
of an organization in Atlanta called Camp Twin Lakes, and Camp Twin Lakes
provided camp experiences for physically or emotionally challenged children.
And they also were doing some veteran camp experiences.
So I would go out and I would volunteer at these camps, and through that, met
an individual who told me about his time at Shepherd Center and SHARE.
And so I wanted to learn more.
And at that time, I was also chairing a leadership program through the Chamber
of Commerce, and that program was a military-civilian interface.
And so you would take business leaders, civic leaders, and you would pair them
with officers, generally, 04, 05, and you would educate them on national
defense, A, in our own backyard, but on a broader scale.
You would take them around the country and let them fly on C-130s and whatnot.
But as
I tried to stress to everyone, our most precious asset is not the C-130, it's
not an F-15, it's not a Bradley fighting vehicle, our most precious asset, it's
the man or the woman who raises their right hand to our uniform.
And we owe these individuals all we have.
And so we would spend one day of the program year taking them to Shepherd
Center.
And you hoped that organically it would create a willingness and a want for
these folks to want to support SHARE as well and learn more about it.
But through that, brought a bunch of Marines for that program day, and a really
good friend who was a captain in the Marine Corps or a major in the Marine
Corps at the time, he was PCS-ing and he was leaving our community. And so-
FRANK
BLAKE: What did PCS-ing mean?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Basically, he was leaving to go to a new duty station.
So he was going to Camp Lejeune from Smyrna, and wanted to do something to
celebrate his time in our community.
And so any leader, to really honor that leader, I think you honor the people
and the stories.
So that's what we tried to do.
We flew in the families of two Marines that he lost in Fallujah, Iraq, on
Veterans Day in 2004.
And we had an artist do a commission painting of these Marines, and we wanted
to honor him by honoring these Marines that were lost.
So there's a painting that hangs in the main hallway of Shepherd Center now,
and the thought is that even in death, perhaps these Marines can breathe life
or inspire others.
But
through that, I met a gentleman named Troy Campbell, who at the time was a
staff sergeant in Marine Corps.
And we started working out together and we would do these intense workouts
every morning. We would run 5 to 10 miles and then lift weights for two hours
and just do ridiculous things.
And Troy mentioned that, "Hey, I want to run from our unit to the Marine
Corps Museum in Quantico, Virginia."
FRANK
BLAKE: His unit where?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: In Smyrna, Georgia.
FRANK
BLAKE: His unit in Smyrna, Georgia, to Washington D.C.?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Yes, sir.
FRANK
BLAKE: Wow.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: But he only wanted to do it because he liked to run.
FRANK
BLAKE: How many miles is that? That's got to be over 500 miles.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: It was. Yes, sir.
So I told him that that's a noble undertaking, but why don't we do this but do
it for a cause? And so we decided to try and raise dollars and awareness for
SHARE.
So we ran, the week of Memorial Day, from Smyrna, Georgia, to Arlington,
Virginia. It was-
FRANK
BLAKE: How many miles is it?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: 684.
FRANK
BLAKE: Wow. Wow. Okay. So that's a tough...
So you decide you're going to run 684 miles, and you're going to raise money in
the process.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Yes, sir. So we did that. We made a decision.
FRANK
BLAKE: Do people think this was a great idea?
Or they say this is the craziest thing we've ever heard?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Troy thought it was a great idea.
There were others who weren't as bought in, but there were 10 of us that did
it. And we set a goal of raising $100,000.
We raised 135, but we made a decision from day one, we weren't going to take
any dollars raised and make any comfort or convenience based decision.
We weren't spending money on a hotel, we weren't spending money on a meal.
So that year, we stayed in random people's homes in Gastonia, North Carolina,
through the Rotary Club.
We slept in a field one night. We slept in a parking lot of a fire station, and
we honored that commitment.
We raised 135K and a hundred percent of those dollars went back to SHARE.
FRANK
BLAKE: How many days does it take?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: That took us seven days.
FRANK
BLAKE: Wow. Wow. I am just curious as...
Sorry, this is a little off point, but my own curiosity as you're doing this,
are you going, why am I doing this?
Or are you getting more confident as you go along or both?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: I think you're motivated by the fellowship as much as the cause, just being
out there with the guys and just the banter and enjoying the suck or just the
miserable experience together.
And that's what it was. And something like that tends to-
FRANK
BLAKE: So you were running nearly 100 miles a day?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Well, we split it up. There were 10 of us.
So over the course of the week, you essentially were running 14 to maybe 20
miles a day.
FRANK
BLAKE: Okay. That's still grueling. That's still incredible.
That's like almost a marathon a day.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Yeah. And we had no support.
There were no police closures for lanes.
We're running on white lines, on rural parts of Virginia and North Carolina.
And we figured we'd ask for forgiveness after the fact.
FRANK
BLAKE: So with that success, $135,000 is a lot to raise, with that success, you
say, let's do this again?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: We did. We considered it successful, so we kind of felt obligated to do
it again.
And so the next year, we came up with a plan that we wanted to start in New
York at the 9/11 Memorial.
So we started at a firehouse at 124 Liberty Street. It was a tent house right
there adjacent to the 9/11 Memorial.
And over the course of eight days, I ran back to Atlanta, and the second year,
we added weight.
So we put flak jackets on and carried 22 pounds of ballistic body armor in the
vests.
And at the time, that represented kind of the suicide statistic that DOD
released in 2012.
FRANK
BLAKE: So how many people did it the second year?
Are you snowballing with participants or participants pulling away?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Well, the second year we had the same group of guys.
We only lost one, and that's because he moved out of the country, still in the
Marine Corps, but had the same group of guys, probably added another two that
kind of transitioned into their unit and then also added a SHARE graduate.
And so now we had a graduate out there with us and he was running and telling
his own personal journey and just the story of SHARE.
FRANK
BLAKE: And so you've been doing this now for how long?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Since 2014. So going on a decade.
FRANK
BLAKE: All right. And what's the path?
I mean, you said you've raised $8 million, so I assume this is growing every
year?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: It is growing every year.
We've been able to do things outside of just destroying our bodies, which is
good because I'm not sure we could have sustained the tempo that we established
early on.
We've been able to meet people of celebrity status who have lent their time,
talent, and treasure to our calls.
The late Charlie Daniels would come to Atlanta a couple of times a year and we
would do a private concert in someone's home.
Chris Young, who is a well-known country artist now is doing the same thing.
Folks in various regions learned of our calls and they wanted to find the ways
to support - distilleries with bottled bourbon, breweries, beer.
People in regions where we had no direct connection would reach out and say,
hey, would you come be a part of an event?
And I think the one thing that's allowed us to be successful is the honesty and
sincerity in the mission.
It's not about any of us, it's about SHARE and it's about the men and women who
receive care at SHARE, and more importantly, those who need this type of care.
FRANK
BLAKE: I'm just curious why... I mean, there are lots of different ways of
raising money.
Why did you choose to do something so physically grueling and does that connect
with something that's important from your perspective?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: I mean, I think if anything, you want to challenge yourself and anybody
can go knock on doors and raise dollars, but how are we going to challenge
ourselves?
And so that's kind of what we did.
And in it, the training for some of these events I think was far worse than the
event itself.
In 2017, we started from the Flight 93 crash site in Somerset County,
Pennsylvania.
We put 93 pounds in rucksacks and we marched back to Atlanta.
Now, training up for that event was miserable. The event itself was miserable,
but everybody's miserable together.
And I think through that you form a bond.
FRANK
BLAKE: Bonding through shared pain and suffering.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Absolutely.
And I think it strengthens you from a character standpoint and just from a will
standpoint.
I'm not going to fail because if I fail, I let my buddy down.
And so I think it galvanized us. The misery galvanized us.
FRANK
BLAKE: So tell us about the people who volunteer for these fundraisers.
What do they like? What do you think is motivating them?
What are some of the stories around them?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Early on, it was mostly active-duty Marines, soldiers, sailors, and I
think it would've been folks who were already enjoyed pushing themselves
physically, were in a military job that required them to do that.
Were probably in the top 1 to 2% of their peer group in terms of physical
aptitude.
And you got to have a little bit of... We like to call our effort somewhat
diabolical, and you had to have a little bit of internal psychoticness to be
able to carry out these events.
But it was just some of the things that we were able to see, do, draw
inspiration from, and to have clients come out and graduates come out and do
these events with you.
In
2016, we had the grand idea on February 26, we were going to leave the North
Church in Boston and run to Atlanta.
All right, so anyone who's been to Boston in February knows it's bitter cold,
and probably the timing wasn't most ideal, but we did it.
And that day, that morning in the North Church, we had a gentleman and his
family join us. His name was Jorge Rodriguez.
Jorge was a corpsman in the Navy. At the time, they were living in Groton,
Connecticut.
Jorge did two deployments in Iraq, suffered a bad traumatic brain injury in
Iraq during his final deployment.
Jorge was struggling with just
performing the basic physical functions of life. He couldn't walk, he couldn't
run.
His only method of mobility was shuffling his feet. He had lost his ability to
communicate.
He could not enunciate words. He had two beautiful little girls and he couldn't
tell them, "I love you."
He couldn't sing a song to them, anything.
He stuttered and he was almost non-verbal. He was having reoccurring seizures.
He wasn't getting the help he needed through traditional healthcare.
And he
had made a decision and he told his wife, I'm ready to go.
And Jorge, his wife, Jessica, one morning woke and Jorge wasn't in bed, and
frantically she went through the house and the interior door to the garage was
open and her husband sat there with a .45 in his mouth.
And here was a human being who had done and given so much to our country and so
much was taken from him, his ability to be a loving husband, to be a father, a
functional father, and all that was being deprived of him.
And so he was, as he would tell you, a shell of a human being at the time and
just made a decision to not be any longer.
And thankfully, Jessica woke and through a case manager nurse, they learned of
SHARE.
And Jorge came to SHARE and he was at SHARE for 16 to 20 weeks himself.
And
that February day in Boston, he and his family came out to the North Church.
And not only was Jorge talking to our group, he was walking, but the first
three miles of our run in Boston, he joined us, not necessarily running but
shuffling, walking when it required you to walk.
But he was there, he was present, he was living, and he was just such a strong
inspiration for his two girls who were there watching him that day.
And Gary's story, Jorge's story, they're just but a couple of the success
stories this program produces, and his girls are the beneficiaries of just the
care that SHARE rendered upon Jorge.
And that's why we do it. No other reason.
FRANK
BLAKE: Yeah. Wow.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: The dollars will come organically.
It's about the dudes not the dollars is what I would say.
FRANK
BLAKE: That is powerful.
What are some of the things that you think people should understand better
about PTSD and traumatic brain injuries and mental health?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: I think mental health is certainly something we try to sweep under the
mat here in our country.
Everybody is struggling with something, but in this veteran population, just
oftentimes these injuries are unseen and it's causing symptoms that allows a
person not to behave in a manner that they typically would, whether it be that
person is angry or depressed or isolating or whatever that may be.
I mean, these individuals, and if anybody watches this and you're struggling
with some of these things, you're not a pariah, you're not a misfit, you're
hurt.
And what happens when you get hurt generally, you figure out a way to become
well.
If I cut my hand, I'm going to clean the wound, bandage it and take care of it
so it gets well.
I mean, when you have one of these neurological injuries, they're no different.
We got to figure out a way to get this population well and we're not doing a
good job. We're failing.
And the
systems that were stood up and created to care for this community, I believe
are failing this community on a daily basis because the bureaucracy of
government gets in the way.
And that's my own soapbox, but I've heard too many stories of the systematic
failures.
Where I haven't seen these failures is at SHARE. Private enterprise winning the
day, seeing a need and meeting that need.
FRANK
BLAKE: And as the effort grows, what do you think is the next step for SHARE?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: So for us, I think we'd love to see SHARE continue to grow.
We'd love to see SHARE add another team of clinicians to be able to expand the
program beyond its current capacity.
We would love to see that the VA Healthcare system refer the population to
private programs like SHARE.
FRANK
BLAKE: That doesn't happen now?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: It's not happening.
Since SHARE has been stood up, there has not been one direct referral from a
patient within the VA system to Shepherd Center. Not one.
FRANK
BLAKE: I'm stunned. I've got to say, I didn't realize that. I'm stunned by
that.
Is that a government regulation? Is that a regulatory hurdle or what?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: It shouldn't be because the legislation is there.
All you have to do is comply with the legislation. I think perhaps it's the
mindset that we can do it better, or if we refer you to an outside source, it's
an admission of failure, or perhaps it's economically driven.
We don't want to lose these dollars that we may receive if you're in-house as a
person receiving care.
I'm not sure what the rationale or reasoning is.
We've been to Washington multiple times and we're trying to move the meter as
it relates to this part of our mission.
And I think long-term success would see that the VA organizations like Shepherd
Center and SHARE are working collaboratively.
At the end of the day, it's about the best outcome for the patient. And if they
could work in unison, in partnership, and truly put the patient's needs first,
everybody wins.
But unfortunately, that hasn't happened.
And until that does, we'll continue to go out there and tell this story and
attempt to fund the program, help fund it, grow it, and not stop until
hopefully we don't have to do this any longer.
FRANK
BLAKE: Well done. You're making an enormous difference.
Another question of curiosity. What's the toughest one of these physical
challenges that you've taken on?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: I would think the 93 pounds. I mean, that's a lot.
And doing that for consecutive days, that requires probably more in the way of
mental toughness and physical toughness, just because there's no way to make
that weight lighter.
And that one broke a lot of people. The running, you can stop for a moment on
the side of the road, have some water, have some Gatorade, whatever you need.
But that doesn't matter how much water or Gatorade you drink, that weight
doesn't get any lighter.
FRANK
BLAKE: Yeah.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: So that one was the struggle, and people still curse me to this day for
that crazy idea.
FRANK
BLAKE: Before we started this episode, I mentioned that a good friend of mine
and yours had emailed me saying that he was so thrilled you're going to be on
the podcast because you're such a great person.
And you said you had an interesting story about him as a volunteer.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: We were blessed to meet Joe DeAngelo, and obviously you know Joe through
your days at Home Depot and GE.
And Joe is a remarkable patriot. He loves this country and those that serve
her.
And he is such a selfless human being.
So when we initially met Joe, Joe mentioned that he wanted to go out and do one
of these events with us.
So we were, at this time, we were staged all over Georgia.
Some of us were in North Georgia, running through the mountains of North
Georgia at Camp Currahee in Chacoa, running the mountains there.
And there was a group in Norcross and their run started at Stone Mountain.
So they had to run up Stone Mountain, run back down, and then run another
probably 14, 15 miles.
FRANK
BLAKE: Wow, wow.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: So Joe was in that group, and I remember we were in a different
community and someone was presenting us maybe with a check or something like
that.
And I get a text message from a First Sergeant who was in our great Marine
Corps, First Sergeant Walt Marks.
And his message simply reads, "Oh, my God, we killed Joe."
So I'm like, "Holy moly, what in the world's going on?"
And obviously I think Joe got dehydrated and all hands were on deck.
Thankfully we had a medic there with him, so make sure we could get him some
liquid and whatnot.
But just the nature of that message, we killed Joe.
You can imagine where my mind went. Our biggest donor was just-
FRANK
BLAKE: He doesn't leave anything on the field, that's for sure.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Absolutely.
But just a remarkable man and just one of the truest, pure leaders that I've
had the pleasure of meeting and getting to know.
FRANK
BLAKE: Well, he would say the same about you.
I ask everybody that we have on Crazy Good Turns the following question, so in
your life, not necessarily connected with SHARE or Shepard Center, just in your
life, who's done a crazy good turn for you?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: My grandfather, Charles Burnett.
My father died when I was 10 years old, at that time, didn't have a strong
relationship with him.
My mother was raising me as a single mom, doing the best she could.
And my grandfather stepped in to become virtually the sole paternal figure in
my life.
Every day of my life, from kindergarten through 10th grade, he picked me up, he
took me to school, he talked to me.
He told me how to be a man. He told me about being responsible, and just…
I would tell anyone that it would be as easy for me to be in jail or dead, if
not for this man.
This man was a state golf champion, I believe two years in a row in Georgia,
had a chance to go play golf collegiately at LSU, chose to move to Long Beach,
California, to work in a shipyard to help support his mother, father, and 11
siblings.
The war
started, joined the Navy and joined the Merchant Marine.
After his time in service, stayed in California for a bit, played golf on Saturday
mornings with Walt Disney and an actor named Victor Mature, was offered a job
by Walt Disney, turned Walt Disney down, came back to Georgia, married my
grandmother, and was present for me during those formative years.
And I would not be here without him.
I would not be the type of man I am without him.
And we all have heroes. And that was mine and truly a remarkable man who was
the embodiment of selflessness.
FRANK
BLAKE: That's amazing. That's terrific, Travis.
So if someone listening to this, and I hope it's nearly everyone wants to get
involved with Shepherd's Men, what should they do?
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Yeah, reach out to shepherdsmen.com is our website.
You can find us on all social channels. We'd love to have you a part of this
cause.
And I think more importantly, if there's somebody who watches this, who is
struggling and you feel that perhaps you don't matter, I'm here to tell you,
you do.
I'm here to tell you that there's people that care about you, people that love
you, and people would do anything and everything to lift you up and try to pull
you out of whatever pit you find yourself mired in.
So just allow someone to help you. Things are never as bad as they seem or good
as they seem.
And just know that there's a program that can help you.
There are people that can help you get there. And you matter. You matter a lot.
FRANK
BLAKE: Thank you, Travis. And thank you for the crazy good turns you do every
day for our veterans and beyond.
So thanks very much.
TRAVIS
ELLIS: Thank you so much, Frank. It's been my pleasure.
From Frank Blake
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